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Madness were interviewed at the Tropicana Hotel. What a bunch of crazy guys. I thought I’d go insane but I came through. The interview was on May 18 so let’s get on with this ...
Bedders: Dipside!?! Here we go! Womans Weekly! Dipside, so when does this come out tell me about it?
Debra: Hopefully in the next ish.
Bedders: I’ve got to be on the cover!!!
Debra: Oh, he wants to be on the cover!
Bedders: I personally think Madness should be on the cover and put ‘Madness’ in big letters on the cover!
Debra: Where do you want to start?
Bedders: I don’t mind, I’m tired, ask me some questions?
Debra: Why are you tired?
Bedders: Coz we’ve been on tour for a month; Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and now here!
Debra: And this is your last date here?
Bedders: Yeah and then we go to the east coast then we go home (Chrissy Boy comes out) Chris I said that you were gonna be on the cover, they told me that they want you on the cover! Chris: Where is your magazine, do you have a copy of this rag?
Debra: This RAG!!!!! No.
Bedders: Come on then I’m all ready to look.
Debra: He’s all excited.
Bedders: I’ve never been interviewed by a big magazine before (laughs). We’ve got a comic did you know that?
Debra: You have a comic?
Bedders: Yeah, is this serious or what? Come on Chris tell us your life story!!
Chris: Well, it all began when I was born …
Bedders: This is true, it all began … (laughs) we like to be asked questions that are easy to reply to (more laughs).
Debra: What kind of vegetables do you like?
Bedders: Broccoli!
Chris: Brussel sprouts.
Debra: What is E.R.N.I.E?
Bedders: It’s Electric Random Number …
Chris: Indicator (never finished), it’s a thing in England called premium bonds alright!!! Which you buy, it’s a government thing.
Bedders: It’s really (starts making faces).
Chris: E.R.N.I.E is a computer who picks the winners. You have all these numbers on your premium bonds and he picks the numbers out and they get published in the papers. Sort of a national lottery. The only thing I don’t like is you don’t get interest, if you know what I mean. So what it is is that they get all the money and they get all the interest on it.
Debra: They get it and you don’t, if you had $600 you wouldn’t get anything and they would?
Chris: If you had $600 in 20 years you’d still have only $600.
Bedders: Yeah but then it’s worthless, the pound in your pocket is worthless. So basically the song is about how people build their hopes up on this computer.
Debra: So it’s really like a fraud thing?
Bedders: No it’s no fraud, but people build their hopes up a lot, they hope that they are gonna win “I’m your saviour from the dishes” It’s like an escape. They think they’re gonna make all this money and they’re gonna live in a big house, know what I mean?
Debra: Yeah!
Bedders: It’s electronic random number something something, a computer …
Debra: Do you like playing here?
Bedders: Yeah I do.
Debra: What took you so long to come back?
Bedders: We haven’t got a record label here now. We’re off Sire, we left Sire.
Debra: You LEFT Sire?
Bedders: We wanted to leave Sire, we didn’t get on, we just didn’t get on, we didn’t mix at all.
Debra: What happened to Stiff?
Bedders: We’re still on Stiff?
Debra: In England though.
Bedders: But in America we’re looking around to see if we can get a new label. That’s what we’re doing, we did one show in SF and two shows at the Country Club and three shows in New York.
Chris: Do you know anything about our success in Mexico?
Debra: No.
Bedders: She’s not from Mexico!
Debra: We’re not that far south!
Bedders: There’s nothing wrong with Mexicans.
Chris: Are they Mexicans or something?
Bedders: Yeah, looks like it!
Lydia/Debra: We are.
Bedders: Even Adam and the Ants like that, eh (screams with laughter).
Chris: What?
Bedders: Nothing. I’m only joking.
Debra: He’s picking on us.
Lydia: Oh, good thing I didn’t hear it.
Debra: She’s gonna hit you.
Bedders: It wasn’t an insult. (Talk about nuclear weapons, guns and Woods joins)
Bedders: I would like to see what we look like playing. On telly you can’t get the atmosphere, for what a gig we do would be like. I’d like to jump out of my body and see what we look like.
Debra: To see what everyone else sees?
Bedders: Yeah, it would be interesting, I think it would frighten me and I’d never do anything again (laughs). (Chris slams down a beer and it goes all over me and Woods)
Woods: For you it wouldn’t be hard at all cuz you could get an extra long lead and walk out. Everyone can do it but me.
Debra: But then he wouldn’t see himself.
Woods: Even it’s alright for me to see the stage and the band playing.
Bedders: Cuz he’s right in back with the drums.
Debra: It would be difficult.
Woods: Coz if I got off, didn’t play drums there wouldn’t be any music. (Talk goes on to the Country Club)
Woods: I don’t socialise. I’ve only heard of you Americans, I’ve been locked in my hotel room.
Bedders: He locks himself away.
Lydia: Why?
Woods: I like it!
Lydia: Sounds good to me, I ain’t arguing.
Woods: We’ve got noisy buses, planes, parties … I just like to get time to myself for a while. One thing I do like about LA is the Tropicana (laughs).
Debra: Did you used to go to Barny’s Beanery?
Bedders: Yes we have to get a limo down there. We were disturbed when we came here and read (uses old man’s voice): “no faggots”.
Woods: That’s terrible, it says that on B.B (talk about Romantics at B.B. when they got beat up).
Woods: You know earrings in ears is there a meaning?
Debra: Yeah, it depends on which side.
Woods: In England left is acceptable by society, right ear is no second look, if you go to a gay club in London and you have one in your right ear you’re in trouble!
Bedders: I hate all that shit anyway, ‘no faggots’ and all that. They must have trouble with them.
Debra: No, it’s the other guys who don’t like them.
Bedders: That’s stupid (really upset now, and I don’t mean it funny either).
Woods: It’s like anything straight, homosexual, bisexual, transvestite the only thing is they should be just accepted as long as they don’t bother people. I mean the people that give homosexuals etc. a bad name are the ones that go on London Tube Stations and go (uses old man’s voice) – “Hello sonny, wanna see?” (pretends to be a flasher), that’s really terrible. (Chris jumps into the pool, and does a Jaws and Friday the 13th imitation … )
Woods: The thing for ‘One Step Beyond’ for us is it’s really old ham, it’s a bit of a rehash, but if you think of ‘one step beyond’ to Madness it’s quite a classic when it comes to Madness I think. So it represents the image of Madness but because we’ve rehashed it out so many times, which we don’t like doing, so we put it out in other versions.
Debra: And you got AM play with ‘One …’
Bedders: Yeah, we weren’t here so Sire never capitalised on it, at the moment it was quite a buzz.
Woods: That’s why we were over here, we’re trying to get the right contacts, get an organisation that would work very well in America, get everything flowing nicely. We are innocent to it all, I mean America you can crack it in so many ways.
Debra: Yeah it’s hard in America, just like they’re saying the Jam don’t want to come back here.
Bedders: The Jam have been here a lot more times than we have, and they really haven’t done much yet.
Woods: In England is where I think the greatest of all new music comes from. I think for years bands like The Jam who are refreshing and new got singles straight in at Number 1, with platinum albums. We’ve had platinum albums … it just doesn’t click here, this is the only country for us. In Japan we’re doing exceptionally well …
Woods: But you’ve got to look at it as America as sort of one of the largest countries in the world, the biggest record selling market in the world, there are more people to reach in America it’s a challenge.
Debra: Do you like New York better than here?
Bedders: It’s about the same (Woods continues to talk about America and selling records, then plays drums on the table until the mic falls off, onward talking about Los Angeles):
Bedders: There’s really violent people here!
Debra: Oh, what do you think of the slam?
Bedders: That’s so stupid!
Debra: How come you don’t have an American fan club?
Bedders: We need someone to set it up, someone we can trust. Start our fan club?
Lydia: Why not, we have honest faces!
Bedders: (laughing) As about as honest as a bank robber this one (talking about Lydia)
Chris: A mass murderer here!! (they start singing) I want the cover, (to Bedders) You can be on the back cover! (more haggling about being on the cover)
Bedders: This isn’t a very good interview, I haven’t been asked any questions if we were a Ska band!!
Debra: Are you a Ska band?
Bedders: NO!!! Now that we got that over with. (They start singing again and Bedders starts banging on the table) This is me tap dancing – tap tap (Chris leaves). Where are your questions (takes away my questions) Dipside ….
Lydia: Where have you heard of Flipside?
Bedders: I haven’t.
Debra: Oh, I’m hungry …
Bedders: You can drink the pool if you like ….
This Madness interview was much, much longer, but due to space reasons we had to cut some out!!!! Hey don’t blame us those guys talk too much!
- Contributed by Ms. Trish Morgan
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